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New Freeride/DH Rig - Please read! 1 Year, 3 Months ago Karma: 2  
Okie dokie! I've been thinking for months and I've still got no idea of what to get. I'm looking for either 2007 or 2006 or possibly 2005 if it's a good deal. I have a few ­frame­s in mind and they are as follows (in no particular order):

Top 5
- Specialized SX Trail
- Transition DirtBag
- Transition Bottle Rocket
- Banshee Chaparral
- Devinci Frantik

Others I would consider
- Reign XO
- Trek 77
- Norco Six (2005)
- Giant Faith

I will be using this bike at Blue Mountain and for doing jumps, drops, gaps, hips and other crazy crap like that and also to Rob’s house (about a 20-30 minute ride) on many occasions so it has to pedal decently. I would like to try and keep this bike under 40 lbs if possible. I am NOT looking for a bike like an A-Line or a Demo 9 as I live in Ontario not Whistler ….. yet. I want something a bit smaller and more “flickable” and more manoeuvrable as I like to ride MY bike rather than have MY bike ride me. I’m 180 lbs. and 5’10” and in most cases a Medium size ­frame­.

My main criteria is as follows:
- ­frame­ only for now as I don't have the funds for a complete
- NEW! (or used, but it has to be the right person and the right bike with the right price)
- 5-7 inch travel
- single crown (very likely)
- reasonably good pedaling
- light, but strong
- can take reasonably big hits


ALSO! Other main things to consider are PRICE and WARRANTY. As these will be HUGE factors in picking apart these ­frame­s.

I’m hoping to stay under or around 2000 for this ­frame­.

If ANYONE has ANY info Good or Bad about any of these ­frame­s or any other ­frame­s they feel might would suit my needs PLEASE let me know.

ALSO!!! If you are going to tell me to “Get a Bottlerocket cuz itz sick” please just don’t post. PLEASE give an explanation as to what and why you think what you do.

Here are some ­link­s to the bikes I mentioned above if you want:

www.devinci.com
http://specialized.com/bc/SBCBkModel.jsp?a=b&minisite=10020&sid=07SXTrail
http://transitionbikes.com/2007/DirtBag.cfm
http://transitionbikes.com/2007/BottleRocket.cfm
http://www.bansheebikes.com/pages/trail.htm
http://www.giant-bicycle.com/en-CA/bikes/mountain/739/26903/
http://www2.trekbikes.com/bikes/bike.php?bikeid=1176600&f=14

Thanks a shit-load in advance!!!

And sorry for the long post I just wanted to make sure I said everything I wanted and need too.


Thanks in advance

Love,
Brandon
 
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This sweet father macker of a bike
 
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Sorry i missed the ­frame­ only part
 
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Dude you put me to work! i have a good review on the sx from a magazine, is no longer on the net but i scaned the page and got the text out of it, i can post it here or email it to you, is a good read. BTW i got your email
 
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Speaking of long post, from mtbaction mag.


As each year goes by, the more specialized and seg-
mented mountain biking becomes. There are several
more genres of riding today, and, fittingly, one com-
pany seems to spearhead each movement-Specialized.
With the growing popularity of bike parks that have sever-
al stunts, jumps and often lift-assisted trails, not everyone
desires to ride a 45-pound downhill bike. In order to achieve a
nimble, but durable, bike that could handle gnarly downhills,
challenging drops, andjumps, riders were often forced to doc-
tor a long-travel cross-country bike with suitable components,
or try to lighten up their downhill rig.
Thanks in large part to riders like Kyle Strait and Darren
Berrecloth, who both have raised the bar for what was once
possible on a mountainbike, Specialized developed a true dou-
ble-black-diamond-oriented Enduro. in addition to the all-
mountain version.
is iT AN ENDURO, OR NOT?
Yes, well-no, kind of. The SX Trail is a member of the
Enduro family, meaning it features the Enduro's all-mountain
design, but it is a tough and purpose-built variation intended
for more abusive gravity runs. It's basically an Enduro that
has been genetically altered to handle more abuse, with forged
Cobra head tubes and a one-piece, forged bottom-bracket,
pivot and seat tube for stiffness and durability. There are two
models of the SX Trail, the I and the II. The SX II costs $3800,
and the SX I sells for $3000. The SX Trail II is also available
as a ­frame­ for $1700.
WORTH THE WAIT?
While testing in Whistler last summer, we drooled over the
Evolution bike shop's fleet of SX Trail rental bikes, and we've
been counting the days until we could get our hands on one.
The SX Trail II is a bike that can stop you in your tracks,
because its design screams fun. We gave the SX all it could
handle, from the mountains of Pasadena to the Santa
Monicas, and raced it in the Southridge USA local downhill
series in Fontana, California. Here's the verdict.
Pedaling: Specialized's FSR ­link­age design is known for its
pedaling performance. And, with the help of the Fox DHX 5.0
shock's ProPedal feature, riders can adjust how efficiently the
SX Trail pedals in the initial part of the shock's stroke. We
found that in order to achieve maximum small-bump absorp-
tion and pedaling performance, we ran the ProPedal knob four
clicks from all the way open. The Fox 36 Vanilla R fork does
not have externally adjustable compression. Being able to
tune the low-speed compression would reduce bobbing when
sprinting on the SX Trail.
Climbing: At first glance, the SX Trail looks like a mini-
downhill bike. With burly wheels, downhill components and a
single-ring up front, obviously climbing wasn't priority one with
the design team. Those looking for a more all-mountain design
need to consider the rest of the Enduro line, which features
lighter components and a triple chainring up front. The SX Trail
is capable of sprinting short climbs and shifts through gears
quickly with the SRAM X.0 carbon short-cage derailleur.
Descending: Practically every component on the SX Trail II
can be found on today's premiere dorvnhill rigs. Combine that
durability with the agility of a six-inch-travel fork and 6.6-inch
travel ­frame­, and what's produced is a bike that's an absolute blast
when it's time to pin it. The S0-millimeter Truvativ stem is an
excellent choice for optimum maneuverability, and the
Specialized Chunder Pro tires clutched the earth in moist and
rocky conditions. Our best results were when the ProPedal was
backed off four clicks from wide open and the bottom-out knob
was cranked nearly fi:11-c1osed. This setting gave the bike the sen-
sation of bottomless travel and supple small-bump sensitivity.
When ridden on technical trails at high speed, the coil-sprung
Fox 36 Van R fork is very supple, active and rigid. Howeveq
that's not the case when pushed to the limits on extremely
gnarly hails with rock drops, gap jumps and runs worthy of the
black-diamond label. The 36 Van R does not have adjustable
high- or low-speed compression, unlike the more expensive 36
Vanilla RC2. We blew throug[r the travel on the 36 Van R off
nearly every drop, jump, and high-speed off-camber corner. We
compensated for this by softening the shock to prevent it from
overdriving the fork through its travel.
The SX has two shock mount positions, one offering a 66.5-
degree head angle and the other 67.5. With a 50-millimeter

stem, we opted for the 66.5-degree angle to help slow down
steering when trails turned choppy.
Jumpin$: In case you missed our Crankworx covera$e from
Whistler (MBA, December 2005) and didn't see Kyle Strait's
tailwhip aboard an SX Trail, let us tell you how thisbike gets up.
The SX Trail isn't a dirt-jump-specific bike, like Specialized's P-
series bikes. It's a bike designed for jumps and obstacles on a
downhill-rype course. Think slope­style­-type riding.
The SX is incredibly nimble when airborne, thanks to a
22.4-inct' top tube. The Specialized Lo-Pro Mag platform ped-
als with replaceable pins are some of the best on the market
and hold up to harsh punishment.
Cornering: The l4-inch bottom-bracket allowed us to push the
limits of our cornering ability by seeing how fast we could take
berms. Again, the fork often splashed through its travel, throwing
us out of an attack riding position. At high speeds, we noticed a bit
of flex in the rear end. This could be caused by a heary downhill
rim and tire pufting a lot of torque on the rather small hnkage plate
of the Enduro design. This sensation was felt at speed on rutted,
off-camber terrain, not on switchbacks or berms.
Braking: Some brakes have good modulation but fade and
pump up when hot. Some have power, but no modulation.
The AvidJuicy 7s have an adjustable lever reach which allows
the lever to be dialed in or away from the handlebar without
affecting when the pads engage with the rotor. The 7's power
is on par with the strongest brakes on the mountain.
SET UP TIPS
The only frustrating aspect of the SX Trail II was how the
Fox 36 Van R with stock springs blew through its travel when
ridden aggressively. We spoke with Fox, and the remedy for
this would be to purchase a different spring package for
$24.95 from your local dealer. Ofcourse, the other alternative
is to upgrade to the Fox 36 Vanilla RC2 for $859.
We also noticed that the Fox DHX 5.0 shock didn't have the
Schrader valve to tune the air pressure. Specialized said each
of their bikes has shocks tuned specifically for its design, so
additional adjustment is not necessary. Also, in the case of the
SX trail. the valve would hit the seat tube area.
LIKE WE BUII.JI IT OURSELVES
The appearance of the SX Trail II made us want to hit the
trails immediately, and its performance lived up to our hopes.
With the right fork springs, you get a super fun, nimble and
durable playbike. We can't think of one component we'd change
if we were to build it up from the ­frame­ ourselves.
If you're fortunate enough to live near a mountain resofi with
a bike park, or have fun downhill trails in your neck of the woods,
the SX Trail is the bike for you. Like we said when we tested
Specialized's Demo 8, it's possible to build up a comparable bike
from scratch, but it's not necessary. Save the time you would
waste searching for compatible components and hit the trail.
 
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HOLY POST!!!!...2005 turner DHR, nuff said.
 
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I have an update for ya'll!! As of right now I think I've made up my mind. Drumroll anyone ?? ....... The bike is not even one on my own list!:­b­link­­: . Even though it's a little more travel and a little more weight than I wanted I'm going for it. A deal like this and with it being so close I will not let this slip away! Anyone have any guesses?

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A 2007 Glory FR!! .

That's right!

I found this deal on PB and DM just tonight and it's a killer one.
http://www.dropmachine.com/buynsell/showproduct.php/product/137/cat/6
http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/241048/

$1650 for ...
2007 Glory FR ­frame­ with a DHX 4.0 (size 16.5)
Saint Crank set
1.5 DH Pig headset
DH Pig reducer headset
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A rear Mavic 321 wheel (12x150mm bolt on).



I figure this is amazing since the ­frame­ alone retails for 1700+ tax!

And it's local so that a huge bonus.

I'll hopefully be able to pick this baby up within the next couple of weeks. It looks like an early birthday present for Brandon !! . Who could ask for a better gift? Not me.

And because this ­frame­ is packing 8" of travel my 5.5" Z1 just won't cut it anymore. So it looks like I'll be on the hunt for a new fork. Single Crown? Double Crown? Anyone have an opinion? Or a suggestion as to what fork? I'd love to hear what you guys think.

AND this guy's name also happens to be Brandon so you know he's a SUPER COOL guy !!! .

I'm stoked as ever and am literally foaming at the mouth . ***Note to Juan, we NEED to get a drooling emoticon*** .

I wonder how much sleep I'll get until this baby is in the bed next to me?


Can't F*cking Wait !,

Brandon
 
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Even my PC is so F*cking excited it decided to post the info twice! .

Peace out!

Brandon

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here she is
 
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Sick man!!
 
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Are you putting 888's on it or another double crown fork.
 
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ya last week i saw a frantik... and it was a beauty... so im down for a frantik... they just look SO SICK with the totem on it... and its got a pretty wicked design. i sugest a frantik
 
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he already bought a glory 8 if you read the thread
 
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Yes I did and so far I love it. I also bought a new fork for it which will remain a secret from some of you, as some of you already know. I'll post up pics when the bike is complete within the next couple of days, so stay tuned.


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